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Posted: 08 February 2015 01:38 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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hi.. I read in many articles that candida albicans can feed of collagen (the fungus can release an enzime that destroys collagen in order to get the nitrogen).. I also read that candida releases toxins that interfere in collagen production.. As i understand, the collagen of people with eds is loosely packed.. So i wander if the fungus could penetrate the connective tissue more easily in eds people, and make the desease even worst..

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Posted: 11 February 2015 06:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Hi Luciana, I’ve considered most aspects of candida infection, and conclude that it is not likely. Candida likes to live on mucocutaneous surfaces (throat, vagina for example)—not inside organs or other tissue. If it did penetrate tissue, I imagine it would get into the blood stream. When in the blood stream, it can be measured (although it is tricky) and it makes itself known! “Candidemia” results in symptoms of acute infection, including fever and is fatal about 40% of the time. I just sort of doubt that Candida is the source of our problems. It is likely more of a red herring when looking for the underlying cause of our illnesses. My two cents… smile

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Posted: 11 February 2015 08:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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thanks for your answer! I wasn’t thinking of candida as the cause of the illness, but more as a risk for people with eds. I was wondering if the fungus could make it worst… I read that candida changes its forms, even its colour, and it avoids the immune system.. It seems to be a tricky, and a really unknown thing.. And if it could overgrow, but never get to make an infection.. It could be quite convinient for the fungus..
I have hyperlaxity, don’t know if it is eds.. I suppose it is.. I was having terrible pain in my body, muscles, and mostly my joints, untill i started a coeliac diet (although i’m not coeliac, but i have the genes related to the condition).. As soon as i quit the gluten, the pain (and dissiness and much more) went away (ecept when i “over use” my joints).. It’s been a year now. A couple of month ago i started a candida diet, and a doctor prescribed me fluconazol, i took it for two months, and my bloating started to dissapear completely, and my skin got so much better.. And i felt much beter in general.. So i started to pay more attention to this candida thing..
I don’t crave for sugar any more.. I swear.. And i used to be adicted to it!
I don’t know, i was wondering if those cases where people with eds get so bad in such short time, if there isn’t any other factor besides the genetic one.. Because it’s all of a sudden.. If it is just a geneticly faulty collagen, why is not more gradual?
I also have this floaters in my eyes.. This is so strange.. They look exactly like pictures of candida i’ve seen (and i’m not imaging them!).. Some doctors told me that if it was an infection i would have the symptoms of it, like redness, and swelling, etc. But i keep thinking of an over gorw, not an infection..

Well, i don’t know.. Just a thoght.. Thanks again!

 

 

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Posted: 11 February 2015 08:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Well, at least I can speak intelligently about ocular fungus infections! That comment was correct—if you had an ocular fungus infection, it would be NASTY. Ocular fungal infections are a beast to treat and are scary for both the doctor and the patient. Your eye would certainly be viciously red and painful, and if you see threads, it is coming from the back of the eye. If so, an infection in the back of the eye clouds the vision, too. Many floaters can look a lot like candida (and other things—I’ve named all of my floaters. haha) I think you can relax about your eyes, certainly. wink

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Posted: 11 February 2015 09:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Yes, i understand the infection, that seems clear.. But an overgrowth.. That’s what i’m thinking about..
because, as i see, scientists are just begining to study the fungus, and it seems to be quite tricky, and it can destroy collagen, and the amount of sugar we eat these days, and women are more likely to have candida issues (and i use to see more women than men with eds, i don’t know if taht’s right..)
so, if just an overgrowth was possible, not an infection..
Thank you so much for your answers!)

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Posted: 11 February 2015 09:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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As i read, the. Candida can change its colour (from white to gray, i think it was), and when it does, the cells from the immune system “can’t see” the fungus.. So, if the immune system don’t see the fungus, how could be swelling, or any symptom? The fungus would cause an infection if the immune system is very compromised. If not, maybe the candida rather stays unseen..

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Posted: 06 March 2015 12:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I’ve been on the fungus bandwagon for years now and it finally got so the metabolic toxins left so confused I’d show up at doctors offices on the wrong days, completely miss plans with my shrinking group of friends.  Systemic fungal infections are not necessarily “on or off” - it’s more a progression.  For me, candida in the gut gives rise to inflammation, and that blows up malassezia in the skin.  Both are normal flora/fauna yeasts that flip scientific genus, they become fungus and dig roots.  This is when they become invasive and cause illness/disease.

I have pictures of little hyphae swimming around my scalp, destroying the follicles.  my chin and nose look like orange peel.  My nipples have these nodules in them now and the general consensus of dermatologists that I read on the internet say it is just “aging” or hormones, and hyper sebaceous glands.  I say it’s fungus, I mean yeast is just NOW realized as the cause of dandruff, roscaea (sp), tinea versacolor, a long list.

I finally realized what the root was for me.  Hormones.  Cortisol specifically.  I have trace amounts, and trace amounts of DHEA.  Doctors would never order tests, or would order a blood test which is useless for this pervasive condition.  “Adrenal Insufficiency” is a word they won’t shut down to, apparently.  Even though I have full insurance, I had to order a Candida IGG (antibodies, meaning your blood is at war with it beyond mucous membranes, which would be an IGA or IGM test.  I also ordered a 24-hour saliva test online.  The results are legit.  Candida test was from a blood draw at LabCorp, spit test was through mail. 

The joke - my doctor just “handed me off” to a Naturopathic Doctor, who was like, you need to see an endocrinologist and a hemo…...erm….. blood specialist. 

Low cortisol is like running a cruise ship on a triple A battery.  It shows up as a slew of other “diseases” and “syndromes” but doctors don’t take a step back and look at the picture as a whole.  They treat each and every symptom, rather than asking “what is causing this body to fail?”

I’m currently on h.pylori treatment and miserable.  After that, my newest doc is hell-bent on the cause being “leaky gut.” 

LOL, what would the medical profession do if the answer to almost all illness was a “species-appropriate diet?” 

Go with your gut, Luciana, literally and figuratively.  We are all our own doctors even though we’re NOT doctors!  This site is a testament to how much we really have to own our own health care now.

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